How should it operate? What should the primary focus be? What control should it have over departments?
Just a “poll” to see what the public wants of DPS due to the recent issues that have been brought to my attention.
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Department of Public Safety should be what the title states, public safety.
They should be pushing laws that help keep citizens safe. They should oversee and manage certifications. They should have resources to help citizens who have rough legal paths and have rehabilitation processes. Make DPS actually contribute to the community and keep the public safe and work WITH LEOs rather than over them.
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Alright what about the investigative part of DPS? Should they have a say or no?
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Ultimately departments should have a say in their investigations. Citizens should be able to file a grievance (complaint) on the department after results of department investigation not having satisfied outcome.
Only instances of immediate threats to public safety shall they be able to intervene.
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I can agree on what @SouthernMorality said. DPS should be in charge of enforcing the citizens’ safety, and not investigating over department’s terminations/suspensions. Me personally as a deputy department head (SCSO Undersheriff) think that if people want to appeal their suspension or termination, it should be brought to the department hicomm’s to deal with it.
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I agree, get rid of DPS’s investigative powers and give the power back to the departments so they can actually deal with it effectively.
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All good things come in moderation. You remove DPS and department command gets too powerful. Just regulate the power of DPS
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There’s no communication between dps and it’s “child” departments
Can we stop calling them children departments please
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I disagree, at that stage you put more fail-safes in place to ensure that doesn’t happen. At the minute DPS is too powerful.
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Yes disband investigations
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dps is useless
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They should be foucsing on the safety of the citizens;
How? They should be meeting with LEO depts, discussing how LEOs should spread out, how they should handle things, and how they should prepare for things like state of emergencies, wars, and big situations.
They are the Department of Public Safety, not the Department of Tryhard LEO HICOMM.
I find it COMPLETELY useless for them to oversee punishments and such, because it beats the purpose of having a department’s leadership. They should focus on the safety of the public, and not be budding their head into everything that goes on. I literally just had a DPS official try ordering me to reinstatement somebody who my command terminated, and I told them that I don’t take orders from them.
And if DPS is going to be doing things relating to my department, everything should have to be approved by myself, because I personally don’t want to take orders from some 3rd party department and I’m sure many others can relate to me.
The last time DPS did this shit, I created this petition – and you saw how many supports it got: A Petition to the Governor
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Alright. I am both an SCSO Internal Affairs Investigator/Supervisor and a DPS Investigator.
In my eyes, there is no need for an Investigational side of DPS. What DPS should be is a Support services department and should be tasked with the following and only the following;
Making Directives each department should follow; Must be approved by the dept. Head/Deputy Head
Managing and dealing with appeals of a department
Handling legal support to law enforcement, or public safety professionals that need it
You can clearly see that DHS can handle investigations with their own IA, so the ‘child’ departments should be able to handle it as well.
If you have any questions feel free to contact me via discord.
Thanks
BangaBus_Quit
Department of Public Safety Investigator
Stapleton County Sheriff’s Office Sergeant
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it shouldnt be absolute ass
honestly just remove it thx
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And a part from that, our department’s Internal Affairs bureau is also ran by DPS. Why can’t DPS just leave departments alone and let the department heads do what they need to do want in order for the department to succeed.
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I don’t even believe DPS should be in charge of appeals, I believe Department’s must be able to do that, IA issue the punishments then a separate IA or HICOMM member can handle the appeal to remain unbiased, there’s no need for DPS to do so.
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also shoutout to identitylaw for taking our concerns and making a forum about it to hear us out
dont see that too often from governors, most don’t care about your complaints
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about dps reinstating;
I think the department hicomm should keep whoever they want in their department, not what an outsider wants. I wouldn’t want to run a department with people that I feel are incompetent. DPS shouldn’t really be interfering with this.
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Interesting. I’ll talk to DPS sometime in the next few days.
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