Sure, except for my tiney tiny bills that: currently control all firearms laws in the State, ensure our civil rights, make court orders exist, make warrants function, make the criminal code a thing (co-worked that one with Hec), and all that other good shit. I’ve also proposed two bills this week sir.
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if the cop is investigating it or there’s a lot going on it can take more than 10 minutes
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Shouldn’t be going afk for longer than 15 minutes in a patrol anyway. At that point you should leave the game.
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making a set time limit is just impractical. there’s so many possible situations where it’s reasonable for a person to be held for an abnormal amount of time
obviously i oppose false detainment but like
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Well I don’t know what to tell you bro, just a weak idea. You said in the POST discord you’d take it to the supreme court challenging that a long detention was ‘cruel and unusual punishment.’ The court has routinely given out hours long sentences without a problem. If your worry is that it is cruel/unusual to have someone wait a few extra minutes to ensure everything is filled out properly, you have very low standards for cruel and unusual.
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I’ve seen an interview take a good 45 minutes to an hour before (the subject being interviewed was detained during this time).
I’ve also taken a good 30 minutes to investigate something.
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Do you not comprehend what a detainment is compared to a trial?? Also, we’re not talking one or two minutes to get things right. We’re talking holding a lad in a car for 25+ minutes while doing nothing of probative value.
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Personally, I highly disagree with this idea. I personally have had to detain people for 45 minutes to investigate a crime due to how the parties where behaving. One of the suspects on this scene that had been arrested attempted to sue me for false arrest. It failed pretty horribly. Some officers need time to actually investigate and make a proper decision with proof that is brought up, which requires time. I understand some people do abuse their authority of detaining some individuals. But personally, I do not want to get sued because I didn’t have enough time to be able to properly investigate something.
Reason why it took so insanely long to investigate this was due to me having to have two parties detained, totaling of 6 people, I had people stepping out of their car coming to me while I was trying to question my main suspects as well as people lashing out at each other and not cooperating. And then the hit & run charge is honestly terribly defined, which is why I had to investigate thoroughly. Also picking up stalking charges, and criminal threat charges from analyzing my investigation.
I do agree with the fact that people should not be detained for an insane amount of time, but I would appreciate if we could do the following:
(1) The timer is to be ignored if, an arresting officer can provide a SOLID case that the suspect they have detained has been disrupting the investigation process or delaying it.
I have never abused my detainment power in my four years of being in Firestone and I do not want to get punished because of someone else making mistakes.
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Someone doesn’t have to be afk for 15 minutes. Say its just 5 minutes in order to empty the trash or use the restroom (something unforeseen and unable to be sidestepped)… if the timetable set by your proposal expires during that time then what happens? Assuming it is the officer that is away then they are obviously away and unaware of what has happened.
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Cruel and unusual punishment is prohibited regardless of if there is a trial or not. And do outline how long you think someone can be detained before it is cruel/unusual. 5 minutes? 10 minutes? 20 minutes?
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Shouldn’t take more than 15 minutes to determine PC unless you’re conducting an interview. Also, lads, I cannot stress this enough: y’all realize you can in fact arrest people without detaining them for extended periods of time? I.e., detain if needed to investigate for 15 minutes, cut them lose if PC can’t be determined in that time, arrest them later if PC is discovered after.
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What happens when we don’t get to hear a certain part of the story and we get fired for false arrest? Due to the fact that the suspect is no longer detained and will most likely leave the scene.
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You use witness statements for an arrest??? Hard to establish PC without a video or picture. Witnesses alone can’t really cut it. And if you’ve got that: why do you need the witnesses?
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ik i am 
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you also have the name of the subject when you detain them, if they do leave the scene you can file a criminal complaint, or even for a warrant lol
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Kinda hard to make an arrest when the defendant runs…
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Last I checked warrants and criminal referrals exist.
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they do
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DOJ doesn’t have enough resources to go after every referral.
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Just re-checked… yep.
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