Brandishing a Firearm needs to be revised

That is true, making it a law would mean that they could be prosecuted in Court, however, it would take ages for the case to go through, take place and come out with a verdict simply due to how long it takes the Courts (not a shot at them). Whereas, the violation of policy and DPS would take maybe a week maximum to do the investigation and come out with a verdict. Not only that but I’m sure there’s another charge you could find for pointing a weapon at someone that isn’t under that bill.

I’m glad you are a mind reader and know exactly what she was thinking, she prevented you from fully making it to the checkpoint by stepping infront of your vehicle with a weapon, sounds like her job.

You could be going 10sps, you’re still a threat. If you’re approaching the DOC gate for example at 40sps, you are still a threat, you ram the gate and run on in, no matter what speed you’re approaching, someone could easily perceive you to be a threat and yes, if you are a threat, you take out your weapon and point it.

So you are known to loiter at the FNG base, which could easily result in a breach. I referring to the Coffee give, which is why I stated you were saying ‘Drink Up’. 40sps in Greendale is infact speeding, please do the research.

If I misunderstood then I apologize, the way it was worded made it seem like an insult. If you take a look at the crime stats in USA; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_by_crime_rate, you’ll see that there is infact a reason to believe everyone is a criminal, and believe it or not, most people are criminal, even if they don’t realize it. Treating everyone like a criminal is a completely reasonable thing to do now-a-days, especially on roblox where literally everyone commits a crime. You had stated that everytime someone leaves their house, they’re in danger, so if we didn’t treat everyone as a criminal and were to be friendly with everyone, I’m sure you’d end up being robbed, assaulted, raped, etc.

Well you did once swear to the oath, you’re now a felon. Just because there is law doesn’t mean it won’t or can’t be broken, it won’t stop LEOs from pointing their weapons because LEOs infact do need to point their weapons sometimes, most LEOs respect the law but the ‘Corrupt’ ones you’re so fond about won’t.

Again, what that ranger said I cant control, this is a forum post about us not being able to brandish, not that the FNG said mean things or ‘was disorderly’

You bring facts to your arguments when time and time again I have stated legitimate facts from both real-life and in-game. You ask for citizens to be treated ‘decently’, we’re talking about the trouble-makers and those who go in-game to make our lives hell, if I was taking this way too seriously then why not end this ages ago? I don’t really care what you do in real life, what I do know is that there are tons of people in the world that are oppressed, they’re out being productive and making attempts to stop this oppression. When I say sit indoors, I mean you’re sitting your ass down behind a computer chair complaining over how theres a shit law in a ‘lego game’ instead of going out and helping to combat the real world problems.

I never once said that complaining is a bad thing, debates like this further improve the State and just everyone in general

He got in his face, keeping him on the sidewalk which is his job, took out the weapon as he perceived it to be a threat (I’m assuming), you keep getting your panties in a twist over how he’s been disorderly over the matter at hand, us being able to brandish or not. I don’t give two shits about what he said, I’m focusing on the reason he pointed the rifle, that is brushing up against the definition of bullying, there’s more severe bullying out in the real world that you should be focusing on here.

There’s a difference between posting your opinion on the law and starting shit, you posted your opinion, you are now making attempts to call people out on their jobs and how, in your eyes, they’re doing it incorrectly, which in the majority of everyones eyes, is starting shit. The use of buttercup was used to de-masculinize you because you clearly need it, you’re letting your ego get infront of the issue that you decided to bring up.

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Only law I could think of is disorderly conduct but that’s debatable. I agree, but if it were also illegal, it would be even better. DPS/DEP HICOMM can handle it, and if we wish to prosecute them, boom.

Why would you stop a citizen from making it to a checkpoint, not to mention aiming a gun at me. That makes no sense. I’ve seen countless videos of people doing audits and going to army checkpoints, mp see’s what is up, and either deny or grant access. I was driving 40 sps as stated a thousand times.

Uhm, it is fine to perceive someone as a threat, law enforcement in general has to look at everyone as if they are criminals carrying guns for their own safety. That should not give them the permission to legally point weapons at people for their safety, what about our safety? DOC has never done this to me. Every time I go to their checkpoint, they treat me very good. They ask why am I here, what business do I have, ID, etc. and they have even more to worry about than fng, let’s be for real, I could be distracting them so an inmate could escape, FNG has nothing in their base.

It isn’t speed limit in greendale is 40. And I am not ‘known’ to loiter, I said I sometimes go there, and when I am told to leave, I do. So I am not ‘loitering’.

I totally agree.

That is why I am arguing on it being revised, not nullified. I do believe in some cases, it is needed, but they should not be totally exempt from this law. It won’t stop leos, but the majority will obey. other leos / dps, etc, seem to love taking down cops so I doubt they would last.

I was only responding to your response to this incident, it was not intended for you though.

That is why you don’t bring real life into a game. Yes, like you leos spend 2 years making a lego career when you can be using that time to be productive. What the hell kind of argument is that? we can choose what we want to do with our free time. Yes, I sit my fat ass down and get on a computer to have some fun on Firestone, just like everyone else who spends years making up their careers, now I try to get a law revised now im the non-productive citizen? again, you don’t know me.

Exactly, that is what I am attempting to do.

Wrong, he did not do it to keep him on the sidewalk, come on man you know that, he had no reason to believe he was going to move. prior to this incident, he was on that side walk for 30 minutes, nobody got in his face until he made that statement.

That would be the case if he simply pulled it out, but he stared to use intimidation tactics and harass the citizen.

Again, I was responding to your comment on the incident, the GIF was a response to another individual, you chose to step it.

Why the hell do you keep attempting to tell me what the hell I should be focusing on? I can do what I want with my free time. And for your information, Im sure I’ve dealt with many more bullying cases than you, here is one example: https://gyazo.com/8d429823240783b5dbf96ac705ca9892
And don’t pull the ‘I don’t care about your personnel life’ card, you brought up what I SHOULD be focusing on and I am here to bring the facts. I spend a lot of my time helping bullied people, I wont post the identity of the person I am messaging. So don’t tell me what I should be focusing on you don’t know a damn thing about me.

Wrong, people spoke to me and I responded to them, if they aren’t satisfied, don’t start with me.

Then the majority of everyone needs to grow up. I’ve had a debate in a comment section with a real cop, I even told him how I felt what he did was wrong, he corrected me, destroyed me, and was respectful. And what ego? I think nothing of myself. I would consider my self humble and loyal.

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Speed limit in Greendale is 30.

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There is just no need for it to be illegal, you’re just going to run into the bigger issue of LEOs arresting other LEOs which is already a hot topic

You would stop the citizen from making it to the checkpoint because you aren’t authorized to be there in the first place, being at or near that checkpoint is infact loitering, they probably allow it in real life because it’s not illegal to be at or near that checkpoint whereas in Firestone, it is. Regardless of your speed, you could easily drive into the checkpoint and run into the base, you shouldn’t have passed the sign to enter the base in the first place

A cop never has pointed a weapon at someone without a legitimate reason, to my knowledge, it’s never happened, you need to remember, this game is literally cops and robbers with a few stuck up law makers. Your safety isn’t jeopardized when a cop pulls out his weapon because he’s been trained in it, he’s there to keep the people safe.

https://gyazo.com/9a1050f9780a0d75745c5a0680862d79 - that looks like 30 to me. You also don’t need to be told to leave to be loitering.

Revising it won’t do anything, it’s literally impossible to revise the law without removing our permissions to brandish entirely, it’s either they have permission to brandish or they don’t

Again, I do know you, you’re the shitlord in this community. Unfortunately, when you try to make a roleplay game, real-life aspects need to be applied, the majority of our law has been based on real-life. We all could be spending our free time dealing with the real world issues, I’ve taken my free time to debate with you in attempts to show you how idiotic it would be to revise this legislation, just like how you’re spending your time making attempts to defend your idea.

People around him were constantly walking onto the street, the fact that the guardsman was keeping him on the sidewalk is what any other LEO would do, trying to control the civilians and keep them on the sidewalk

I constantly have my roblox character looking in one direction and my camera facing a different direction, I don’t focus on where my roblox character looks (you said stared and I’m unsure if that’s a typo or not)

I make attempts to tell you what to focus on because these are more pressing issues that everyone, including myself, should be focusing on. That paragraph you’ve so kindly showed us only proves that you know how to deal with situations and cheer people up, anyone could quite easily do that without the full experience of being bullied.

I will infact start with you, you think that you have the qualifications to tell people how to do their jobs, this FNG conducted her duties diligently and I don’t know who you are to say otherwise.

If anyone needs to grow up, it’s you.

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Mr. @Gamer_Kyle I am the legal counsel for the National Guard. If you are concerned with what you experienced please contact me on discord.

Sen. 1superchris2
Attorney-At-Law
Lieutenant Colonel, FNG

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what?

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Oh I thought you tagged me lmao

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YOU GUYS GO AT IT EVERY SINGLE DAY

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is this a request to lock cause i’ll do it

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Then departments should better teach their officers then, incompetence won’t get in the way of a law.

Why is it such a hard concept for you to understand? Anyone can go to the damn checkpoint. Once you pass the bank sidewalk, sign, and the hill to the right, you are loitering however, you may only be trespassed off of the property once FNG personnel tell you to do so. if a citizen is loitering, it would be illegal for a guard to instantly arrest them. they must inform the individual they are loitering, tell them to leave, and then go from there.

I was indeed loitering at that point. I was not told to leave at that time. It was perfectly legal for me to go to that checkpoint.

I am not sure on this.

I should have and can. When I am illegally arrested by a MP, and I don’t have his name and badge, I’d go on his property again. and get his name and badge. If I were not allowed to do so, I’d be sitting in jail right about now.

Define a ‘legitimate reason’, one officer could feel it is a legitimate reason to pull a gun on someone for staring at him. The way they looked at him forced him to believe his life is in danger, lmao, a law needs to be establish, let’s stop beating around the bush.

My live is jeopardized. Are you really going to try and go that route? Say that to the many leos I’ve seen kill IO, FNG, and citizens by mistake, I am victim to this. B.S mate. It needs to be a law so it is clear to everyone.

You learn something new every day. And technically, you do. Yes, you are loitering, but you can continue to loiter until told to leave by fng or dhs.

Wrong, Thank the lord you aren’t in congress, get it?

Woah there, this is news to me. Based on what? tell you what, if your comment gets 8+ likes, I’ll believe you. I’m a fine member of this community, and I am in no way a ‘shit lord’. What does that even mean? toxic member of the community? lmfao

I would say the United states, not real life. But I agree.

Why do you keep on talking about ‘real world’ issues? Imagine being in a game lobby, everyone is cracking up talking about the noscope they just got, you join, and make the comment ‘…why is everyone playing a god damn game, you should be worrying about REAL WORLD ISSUES’, like, okay? no fam I’d rather sit here an eat my chips while playing some league of legends. I spend enough of my time worrying about real world issues hell, I had to take a cardboard box of cereal all the way outside early in the morning to put it in my recycle bin to be eco friendly. and mhm, that’s huh, fairly obvious?

Who was constantly walking into the street? how does that justify his disorderly actions, or him throwing a tear gas bomb on at least 3+ innocent citizens, please do clarify.

Probably a typo, my computer is slow as hell so I won’t attempt to locate that comment. And again, him facing his character isn’t the issue, why do you keep beating around the bush? for the 5th time, he was clearly being disorderly, anyone can see that.

Yes? of course. Everyone also has something called, fun? I find fun in debating. I know what I should be focusing on and I don’t need anyone to tell me what I should be focusing on, thank you every much.

Mhm, where did the ‘experience’ of being bullied come from. Nobody needs experience, who would think that. Anyone can, but many dont.

I always laugh when people pull the ‘Don’t tell me how to do my job’ card. First off, I know how to do the job, I’m a former MP Sergeant, been there, done that. I can voice my opinion, I didn’t tell anyone how to do their job to begin with. I shared my perspective on how I believe she should have behaved.

Now you’re just pulling the ‘no u’ card after you called me out on it. Where is the evidence, I provided some for my comment to you, when you can’t quote or bring up facts, it’s a meaningless comment.

We will never agree on brandishing a firearm, I guess I’ll end this here and go ‘focus’ on planting some trees because I should always be focusing on bettering out universe, yes sir.

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I posted that on my emotions at the time, disregard that. thx tho

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Will do. Thank you. I will have plenty of time on my hands to contact you with information since I am being prosecuted for 1st degree murder or some crap lmao can’t you get like 15 hours in jail, which is another law I will have to get revised, or is it 12? not sure

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Incompetence has and will get in the way of the law, whether it be incompetent Officers, DEFINITELY incompetent congressman and incompetent members of the judicial branch.

Anyone can go to the checkpoint, being at the checkpoint is illegal, you are once again contradicting yourself. Just because no one told you to leave doesn’t mean you aren’t loitering, which is what you’ve stated. Loitering is illegal meaning you are committing a crime by being at that checkpoint

Legitimate reasons as to why we should point our weapons are on a case by case basis, every situation is different and everyone will react differently, the law is established, your revision won’t be.

So you’ve been killed by mistake and this revision is just going to somehow stop these mistakes from ever happening again? It’s just not going to happen, this revision isn’t going to stop you from accidentally being shot or killed, maybe reduce it but not eliminate it.

Funny, I am a former Senator.

I don’t need likes on a forum post to know I have tons of individuals behind me, they’re just sick and tired of dealing with your shit on this post, as am I. You’re a shitlord based on the groups of people that constantly discuss you and your actions

I keep talking about real world issues because they’re out there? and we need to be dealing with that shit rather than arguing over a lego games law

In the gifs, I saw 2 civilians walk into the street. The only thing disorderly could be what the ranger said, nothing else. As for the tear gas, we don’t have the full video to analyze so I won’t even bother commenting without facts

No one is ‘beating around the bush’, your comment said that he was staring at them which apparently was a form of intimidation, I’m simply disproving your comment. Once again, the only thing that could come close to disorderly conduct would be what the ranger said

Fun in debating, so you enjoy arguments. Sounds like something a shit lord would say

‘Former MP Sergeant’, that was what, a year ago? two years ago? If you’re a Former MP Sergeant then why are you saying shit that’s so idiotic? I’m sure their policy has been changed a while ago

Where is the evidence you need to grow up? Throughout this entire forum post, I don’t know if you’ve realized but I’ve brought up several quotes and facts throughout this entire ‘debate’.

I can assure you that this law will not be revised, not now, not anytime in the near future.

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If you were at the protest, he wasnt being civil in the slightest. He was talking crap and once we started defending ourselves verbally, he painted himself as the victim of us harassing him.

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LOL. istg i always find it annoying when they say it wrong.

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idk what makes you think you’re some alpha citizen that can just do or get whatever they want

you can’t run up to government property and get mad when you’re presented with a firearm

and you can’t just have any law you want changed, they’ve been trying to get lower time for years but we have retards in congress that think its reasonable to put people in jail for literal real life days for a roblox pixel crime

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Alpha citizens are the came as beta, or free players. Law gives them no privileges above middle class citizens. And I will get it revised, I don’t think I can do whatever I want, I spit facts, even if I have to get in congress in v3, way too many laws are unjust, it’s ridiculous.

Nobody got mad, I made an argument. SCSO, FSP, etc, is government property, I think you mean a restricted area. And I own’t keep debating on why I feel what she did was wrong, I’ve probably made that statement 10+ times, you can feel free to look back.

Exactly, I won’t stop until they are changed :man_shrugging:

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This is too much of a meme for me to chip in my two pence.

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ok ok ok

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you have to be trolling

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