I’ve been saying before for a long time already that we are not given actual laws to fight organized crime. This should be fixed.
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S.U.P.P.O.R.T.
I dont think anyone realizes this has been going on for weeks and people are going to start takng shit into their own hands if this goes on for too long because theyre going to get frustrated and upset.
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Habeas corpus writs have never in the history of Firestone been issued or taken under review by any court. The very concept of arrests in Stapleton County defy the writ of habeas corpus in every way – it is the arrestee’s burden to prove that the arrest is false. Just ‘suspending’ habeas won’t make false arrests any more legal; there is also no way to ‘suspend’ the right to be free from unreasonable searches and seizures and to be safe in one’s person, free from cruel and unusual punishment.
Not sure what you want Congress to do… This is something for IO and other LEAs to handle and, more importantly, prevent if possible.
Although I do agree that development-wise it’s difficulty to ID suspects, that’s just a part of how it works. If they are killed you can use that as POI and file criminal litigation which will most likely put them out of action temporarily.
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The problem is not development-wise and not “something for IO and other LEAs to handle”. We are not given laws to combat organized crime at all. If we see a group of people dressed in the same clothes we can’t do anything with them even if we know that some of them are armed for sure. At this point groups like ATF, which are not under any department are much more effective than government law enforcement agencies, because our laws restrict us too much, I would be much more effective just resigning and shooting up the bad guys without the constraint of law than this bullshit.
Nobody ever gave us any way to combat organized crime at all, we do not have a single law that gives us something to do with organized crime. Tell me what the fuck am I supposed to do with 5 retards dressed like eachother, when I know that 3 of them are armed?
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Ya think they know habeas corpus is the right to contest imprisonment and know why you’re imprisoned? If Congress passes this i will rejoin an LEA to specifically arrest people who supported this idea for whatever reason I so please and they legally can’t stop me 
But yeah, any government official that supports this is a tyrant and will be removed by force, if necessary. This will happen over my dead body. And no, I don’t trust FNG with dictatorial powers. I don’t trust anyone with the kind of power martial law brings.
Also lads, calm the fuck down. Some teenagers virtually killed other teenagers in LEGO church. This is nowhere near comparable to the NZ Mosque shooting and any of you who compare it to such are scum.
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its really annoying when people kill defenseless people for literally no reason but i definitely agree
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The beauty with groups like that is that the SC says you only need RS to force an ID. So here’s what you do. Catch one, get a warrant for their bullshit. Now anyone dressed like them can be detained and IDed. Now you have another ID. Keep going till you get all the IDs, get warrants for Aiding and Abetting. Y’all have the tools, you just don’t think more than five minutes ahead and therefore can’t use them.
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That’s the problem. This should not be how it works. I shouldn’t have to go through some janky shit instead of just directly doing something to them based on the fact they are comitting organized crime. I don’t need to find ways that were not designed for it. It’s like using Kalashnikov to unscrew a bolt, you can do that, but it’s extremely uncomfortable.
There must be laws exactly to combat organized crime without excuses. Make a definition of organized crime, add laws that would permit LEOs to do something about them, like giving automatic RS towards organized crime, sharing responsibility for actions comitted together, maybe even arresting them on sight for representing that group. You could give DHS and then FBI a legal ability to define terrorist and criminal groups for that cause as well. The ways how all of this can be implemented are there, nobody just fucking writes a single damn law despite me and the rest constantly damn asking for it, as well as visible problems tha LEOs face for already more than a few months. Great help to our LEO departments from our congress. As I said, it would be easier for me to fight organized crime as a person without a department, than as a CRT agent, when my job is literally fighting organized crime.
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I agree organized crime laws need to be better established, but it cannot be at the expense of the people.
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It does not have to be at the expense of people, but it shouldn’t be too limited as well, what would be the point of laws to combat organized crime if we wouldn’t be able to give LEOs abilities to allow to combat them in the first place?
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You could just extend criminal liability to anyone who clearly dresses identically to those committing gang/terror related actions by declaring them to be Aiding and Abetting.
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Well yeah that could be an option as well. As I said, there are shitton of options to just make our lives easier, but none of them are used. Why? No fucking idea.
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I mean, not many of y’all are that vocal, and the ones that are have no idea what the fuck they’re talking about (take this entire post where the OP only realized what habeas corpus was mid-way through the replies).
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I swear to god if that ammendment does not pass.
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I’ve retired it due to some complaints of it violating BOR.I, and we are writing an entire organized crime act right now.
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communism is key!!!
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Organized crime used to be legally defined – although it was nothing more than allowing you to get them for 900 seconds.
Congress really can’t do much more without infringing on BOR.I. Just wearing the same as someone isn’t going to be arrestable anytime soon, nor is simply affiliating with something arrestable – that’s the pure right of freedom of ‘association’ (yes, this is an actual right also outside of religious matters).
Perhaps it could be made FRP to wear the exact same outfit as another with deceitful purposes.
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While this is the logical solution (as its unrealistic to alter not only your clothing but your face, race, etc. to match your entire group), I wouldn’t hold our breathes here.
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Can’t always prove if they’re aiding or just with them. They’re specifically taught to remain silent and not admit to anything. Also, the use of martial law in this situation would be to also have the capability to search them without PC, meaning we can prevent another atrocity before it occurs. What you mentioned right now is what we already have been doing, but yet this continues to progress and worsen by the day.
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