Why isn't Homeland Security Under Department of Public Safety?

Okay, the developers gave you cuffs and they can take them away, there’s no doctrine that prohibits such action. There is a separation between development and community, the development will always take superiority in matters if they have to–they don’t have to honor the community’s decisions, because, in essence, they manage it.

@mrfergie

I personally already brought this up, No one seems to care and kept bringing up classified shit…

My only question is,

wtf is so classified? Investigations on gangs?

Not like we have nuclear codes or anything… o-o

It’s more of a privacy barrier.

First of all, by removing cuffs developers remove the power to arrest from MP, with that, they can’t do their duty and with that, developers interfere with their operations.

There are more stuff classified than you might think.

maybe it should be modeled after a state, that way we won’t have a confusing system where federal agencies are under the state

so if DHS already follow DPS policies, what is there to lose?

all im seeing from dhs is “we dont want dps”

ok scso doesnt want them either so wheres the removal of their jurisdiction over us

Conclusion

no one gave me a single good answer
just a bunch of personal opinions which were proved wrong
my point stands

oh and did someone say biased government ahem

So here Why isn't Homeland Security Under Department of Public Safety? I provided some arguments on why DHS isn’t DPS, and asked him why is he so biased towards DHS and FNG. Instead of answering me at least something he ignored my answer. I won’t copy something I already wrote in the link so you can check by yourself. However, I will repeat something.

DHS isn’t under DPS for several reasons.
1st, if I am not mistaken Fed don’t wants DHS to be under anyone.
2nd, DHS has a lot of classified info, DPS can’t have access to that info, very simple.
3rd, we have our own IA that does DPS’s job even better, as for me at least.
4th, DPS regulations will obstruct DHS operations, obvious.

@mrfergie Here is a response for you, temp unlocking the thread

1 - Best answer on this thread. (However it is supposed to be under FBI in the same way SCSO/FSP are under DPS, which no one enforces)
2 - Like I said before, how is using LOVID going to expose classified info. DPS doesn’t need to regulate the intelligence operations, just the PS/LE stuff. Exceptions can easily be made for classified info.
3 - This contradicts your first statement; fed doesn’t want IA to be within the same department due to bias. SCSO/FSP had their own IA too, but they were still put under DPS.
4 - DHS law enforcement will continue to work as normal, just as FSP and SCSO do it. If it obstructed operations, it would not exist.

ps - how did you reply to this if it was locked???

He had another thread regarding it and Lost transferred his post here.

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1 - :ok_hand:
2 - Not LOVID, some other regulations, just let me remind when DPS released a regulation that you HAVE to show your name on duty.
3 - no idea about SCSO/FSP, our HICOMM (basically DHS HICOMM is our IA) investigates our own agents without bias accordingly, while HICOMM already can be investigated by FBI accordingly (According to Fed)
4 - FSP/SCSO are not obstructed because they don’t have classified info and all that stuff. Just as an example, to investigate an IO agent you need to know what he was doing at this moment and, if he was in our radio channel, know what he said in there. DPS just CAN’T access that info because it’s classified. And that’s the point, they can’t investigate anything in DHS properly due to that.

I answered because Lost opened the forum due to my answer. Thank you for your reply though, I didn’t expect that.

fed said NO departments should have IA. So DHS shouldnt has an IA because they aren’t special. They need someone to regulate their employees and DPS is the department for that. Someone can make a bill to ban DPS from requesting classified info. It’s the most reasonable option imo no h8 dhs

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I would rather have FBI do that lmao

that’s not the outlined duties within the FBI specified within the establishment bill or the amendment to said bill. It would most likely remain to investigate GO’s and High Crimes. The director also said he would not expand the duties of the bureau as well.

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It’s a joke smh, IO is our IA, we don’t have a parent agency