With the recent elections that have happened I’ve noticed a trend where past criminals will run but, even with good knowledge of how the government works, will get barely any support or people stating that they will not be supporting them because [INSERT REASON HERE].
A common one I saw was with the governor election that had just happened where Ash and Scriblelz were running in which people supported Ash but not Scriblelz primarily due to an incident that had happened where he leaked DHS document in the public Firestone discord, now obviously that was a huge no no and I could see why people were mad about it but…we have to eventually forgive and forget but I understand that others have to see change before they decide to forgive them, so, I want to see some suggestions that the community has where these ex-criminals can clear their name once and for all, whether that be a public apology or correcting what they did wrong, because we can’t keep holding them down, we need to let them grow as people and improve.
Sorry if my spelling is shit, I’m typing this on a phone and I just finished an exam so my brain hates everything right now.
I completely understand what you’re saying and it sucks that that’s the way it is but it’s hard to force people to forgive and forget, people are always going to have personal biases because we’re all human. And in Scriblelz case, to be absolutely fair, people were hesitant to support him and allow him to access to classified documentation as Lieutenant Governor because of previous experiences.
To be frank, there are no real suggestions I have besides former criminals needing to go out and mend the rifts they have with individual people within the state. Beyond that, like I said, it’s hard to make people forgive and forget.
I’d like to preface this by saying that there will always be individuals in this community who look down on others solely for mistakes made in the past, no matter how old those mistakes are or what that individual did to clear their name. Whether they be high level LEOs, criminals or even your average DOT worker, they will constantly exist, this is an issue(?) that’s never going to go away.
Now to give you the answer you were actually looking for; I think simply going legal once and for all and starting fresh as a civilian is how ex-criminals (or former legals who made prior mistakes) should go about clearing their name. Get that expungement or pardon approved, apply for DOT or DPW or whatever and just start over. Maybe later on get a POST or FFA certification, get involved in the medical or law side of things or hell even the government. Show the community they are changed individuals by actually changing themselves for the better. If they put in the effort to change and show that they have, those willing to forgive and move on will. And if you made a mistake, like scrib did, own it and move on. Don’t blame other people or game mechanics or whatever, don’t make excuses. Just own up to that mistake, admit you were wrong and carry on with your life. Take steps to ensure it won’t happen again. That, in my opinion, is the best way to clear your name.
dangerzone1111
Secret Service Agent
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criminals do not deserve to be HATED on for doing crime and if they wanna go legal they go legal that’s their choice. just because they were a criminal doesn’t mean they are any less smarter than the rest of us
NOW in my case i don’t regret being a criminal but i regret certain choices i made as a criminal, and although i would like to be forgiven i do not expect it
while I partially agree, it’s naturally and understandingly hard for some LEO’s to forgive a criminal who targeted and repeatedly killed them. not saying you did just an example
Theres no way to physically or mentally force people to forgive someone for the wrongs that they had committed, sure, you can clear the air slightly on some previous things you’ve done but you can’t make somebody not hate you 100%.
This applies to even outside of Firestone, theres a shit ton of stuff that I did that I regret doing and honestly even if I try to correct my wrongs I still will never be forgiven 100%, and, theres a metric ton of shit people did to me or loved ones that I could not see myself 100% forgiving them for, even if they try to clear the air with me, theres always going to be that slight bit of disliking of the people who wronged me.
Now, in terms of the suggestions I both think they are great and can both be applied, to clear the air with those you have wronged and pretty much start fresh and re-build that trust with the community so you can show them that you’ve changed.
A friend will forgive, but only a fool will forget. Due to implicit human biases, it’s impossible to just forget someone was a high profile felon when considering who you want to run your government.
After the last few replies I’m adding this as a note to the discussion because I can’t edit the topic:
Like most have noted, there isn’t a way to force someone to forgive and forget and even if they do forgive, similar to what Lidels said, actions cannot be forgotten, so, I’m adjusting the topic to the following: How ex-criminals can regain some trust within the community.
Also, thank you to all who’ve provided their views so far, not only does it help me get an insight on what the communities perspective on the issue is but also help ex-criminals themselves get some insight on how they can regain some trust within the community but also right their wrongs.
Honestly, although what ex-criminals do experience later is harsh treatment at the best, it is on them to go back out into the community and regain people’s trust which may mean starting at the roots and working their way back up the social ladder again or whatever it entails for them personally.
If they have done everything they feasibly can to reconnect and regain the trust of the community, it’s on the people then to acknowledge their effort and dedication and give them the forgiveness they deserve.
It won’t happen if ex-criminals sit idle and just beg or demand forgiveness though. That just breeds annoyance or irritation.
In firestone unfortunately because there’s no real separation of character and real life, people hold things against you for all time even if your record gets expunged. Should this be the way it is? probably not. It’s all circumstantial for me. I’m far more likely to vote for someone who may have robbed a bank, then someone who AA’d.
At the end fo the day you cant really force people to vote for you so it’s a hard happy medium.
Yeah, that’s most likely the only real option for a lot of ex-criminals as well unless their actions are debatable. On the other hand though, they have to prove that they’ll do what they say instead of just saying things as words do not equal actions and promises on their own most likely won’t mean anything for a lot of people.
Yeah, although from what I’ve seen at least most ex-criminals, and from what Scriblelz said himself in this topic, they want to be forgiven but don’t expect to be.
But, at the end of the day you can’t force someone to forgive.
