hey have you head of Firestone Department of Health - Roblox and the supervisory board there? anything to do with medical curriculum is voted on by them basically
And firefighting just doesn’t exist right fuck their curriculum?
That is exactly the problem and why I stated a board would be officially made to do such thing lol.
FFA is actually currently nothing you are the ones making it a “state department”.
If you don’t see the correlation that you made yourself then topkek.
DOH certified FFA to issue them. FFA didn’t certify themselves. If at anytime DOH decides to pull the plug then FFA is pretty much dead. Just needed to clarify that.
An academy is never the “standard” for firefighting/ems but merely a school to teach and push knowledge to users in which they would be applicable to join such divisions and departments.
You have a problem with the word realism there and the previous quoted users “realism”.
That is exactly the problem and why I stated a board would be officially made to do such thing lol.
boards exist, read the whole forum post. more specifically,
This already exists, the Department of Health Supervisory Board which consists of;
The SCFD Chief
The SCFD Chief Paramedic
The FFA Director
The FFA Deputy Director
The DOH:EMS Director
The FMA Superintendent
The Secretary and Deputy Secretary of Health
(and others that I may be missing, though I believe I got them all)A certification cannot be revoked without a majority vote from all of these members. THESE are the people that have set the standard that I’ve talked about. THESE are the people that set our scopes of practice and inform us of any updates. THESE are the people who launch incompetency investigations into individuals accused of medical malpractice. The board that you are calling for is already established.
On the firefighting side, I believe there’s a chat that included the FFA Director, Deputy Director, CTO of Firefighting, Chief and Deputy Chief of SCFD to talk about, approve and/or deny changes to the Firefighting curriculum. (I may be wrong here, dont quote me on this)
DOH certified FFA to issue them. FFA didn’t certify themselves. If at anytime DOH decides to pull the plug then FFA is pretty much dead. Just needed to clarify that.
no, DOH has authorized FFA to certify. meaning FFA is an autonomous department that adheres to DOH guidelines for what is required to certify an individual, anything past certification is handled within DOH such as the aforementioned incompetency investigations, sop changes and certification revocations. FFA can do all of this alone, but to ensure that their power to isnt abused, they go through DOH.
An academy is never the “standard” for firefighting/ems but merely a school to teach and push knowledge to users in which they would be applicable to join such divisions and departments.
then you have absolutely zero knowledge on firefighting/ems
FFA teaches more than any academy out there, more than enough to make sure every individual who graduates from their academy can succeed in whatever endeavor they choose within the State. all in 4 sessions. FFA is the standard for Firefighting / EMS, which is why, not sure if you know this, their curriculum is what we base incompetency off of. FFA is the minimum standard we expect every single individual who has any sort of firefighting/EMS certification to adhere to.
An academy is never the “standard” for firefighting/ems but merely a school to teach and push knowledge to users in which they would be applicable to join such divisions and departments.
more than enough to make sure every individual who graduates from their academy can succeed in whatever endeavor they choose within the State
You literally just transformed what I exactly said lol…
FFA is the standard for Firefighting / EMS, which is why, not sure if you know this, their curriculum is what we base incompetency off of. FFA is the minimum standard we expect every single individual who has any sort of firefighting/EMS certification to adhere to.
again FFA is not a standard, but again the literal only school/academy to give such certifications certified by the DOH for EMT.
no, DOH has authorized FFA to certify.
DOH certified FFA to issue them.
Think you are having a big misunderstanding about the difference between who is the issuer and who is the certifier. It’s really about who has the original power of such certification. Which would be… DOH so DOH owns such license and they certified FFA to issue such license from their academy.
FFA can do all of this alone, but to ensure that their power isn’t abused, they go through DOH.
You are not wrong you are 100% right yes. But no point of this being brought up at all. The clear image here is there isn’t an official committee or board to manage such certifications of academy. because the DOH ITSELF cannot have full oversee over the academy and FFA specifically as one of its primary objective is firefighting.
I’d like to direct you to a previous comment made by the Director of FFA and my reply to such Allow FFA to be sued in the court - #38 by tow23er
You literally just transformed what I exactly said lol…
You cherry-picked a sentence from my entire paragraph on the matter.
again FFA is not a standard,
You’re right, FFA is not a standard, they are the standard.
Think you are having a big misunderstanding about the difference between who is the issuer and who is the certifier.
FFA is both, hence why any certification given by them is not called a “DOH EMT certification” and a, get this, Fire Academy Certification. They follow guidelines set forth by DOH.
he clear image here is there isn’t an official committee
Except there is, it’s laid out within the Health Act. As a congressperson talking on the matter of health and certifications, I’d expect you to do minimal research.
BE IT ENACTED BY THE STATE OF FIRESTONE CONGRESS* HERE ASSEMBLED THAT: PREAMBLE: The Department of Health is a rather useless department without its authorities/power defined. Hence, this legislation is being summoned. §1: DEFINING INFORMATION (a) The Department of Health (and or DoH) shall be defined as https://www.roblox.com/groups/2826521/Firestone-Department-of-Health (b) The Department of Health Secretary shall be defined as the Secretary of the Department of Health. The Department…
(ii) The Department of Health Secretary/Deputy Secretary shall have the ability to suspend an individual’s medical certification for no longer than fifteen (15) days. Further, the Department of Health Supervisory Board may vote on an individual’s certification to be suspended, the vote must pass with a simple majority vote (1/2). Additionally, should the Supervisory Board vote pass the suspension may not surpass thirty (30) days.
You cherry-picked a sentence from my entire paragraph on the matter.
Did not cherry-pick I just removed the useless glorification but if you want me to reference the whole paragraph.
FFA teaches more than any academy out there, more than enough to make sure every individual who graduates from their academy can succeed in whatever endeavor they choose within the State.
Basically restating what I said
all in 4 sessions. FFA is the standard for Firefighting / EMS, which is why, not sure if you know this, their curriculum is what we base incompetency off of. FFA is the minimum standard we expect every single individual who has any sort of firefighting/EMS certification to adhere to.
Useless details that just details FFA but still goes back to the point of it being a school.
You’re right, FFA is not a standard, they are the standard.
kinda troll reply but ye nah it ain’t a standard bud.
FFA is both, hence why any certification given by them is not called a “DOH EMT certification” and a, get this, Fire Academy Certification. They follow guidelines set forth by DOH.
then again you are missing the point of who is the issuer and the certifier? what are you on about kid lol…
youfirs state
no, DOH has authorized FFA to certify.
then you say shit like
FFA is both,
make up your goddamn mind
ecause the DOH ITSELF cannot have full oversee over the academy and FFA specifically as one of its primary objective is firefighting.
The act you have provided is meant for regulations and revoking of such certification not setting curriculum and what forth.
pov: ffa doesnt exist legally. so nothing can be done lol
kinda troll reply but ye nah it ain’t a standard bud.
You, a congressperson, with absolutely no experience within firestone ems/firefighting based on the lack of any certification found, are trying to lecture me, the operation captain of the only firefighting service in the state as to how my job is done. We, SCFD, hold our employees to a standard, do you want to know what that standard is, or can you take your best guess, here I’ll tell you, it’s FFA.
@Samtella I’m just curious as to what experience you have with firefighting and EMS? Some of these people are IRL first responders or have been in fire department groups for years and have learned about IRL firefighting. I’m not trying to get involved but I’d just like to know your experience.
the operation captain of the only firefighting service in the state as to how my job is done.
Where is the lecture of me telling you how YOUR job is done exactly? quote such statements and we would talk about that.
We, SCFD, hold our employees to a standard , do you want to know what that standard is, or can you take your best guess, here I’ll tell you, it’s FFA.
Again they are a school the standard you are talking about is held by how SCFD handles its members
this is one of the most autistic forums i have seen in like 2 weeks can someone lock this
Some of these people are IRL first responders
just because they are firefighters does not mean they have knowledge of hierarchy as proven previously in my statement Allow FFA to be sued in the court - #38 by tow23er. In these forum posts I had no comment on what is wrong with the curriculum or style of teaching but literally the hierarchy of FFA. I recommend you all re-reading it
If it doesn’t exist. Then why do we have FFA and not SCFD - Academy?
because they are firefighters does not mean they have knowledge of hierarchy
because we are the ones with the most knowledge of how fire/ems works in the state, we have no knowledge on how fire/ems hierarchy works in the state
because the director himself is an actual IRL firefighter, he has no knowledge on the fire/ems hierarchy in the state
because the SCFD chief is an explorer with the LAFD, he has no knowledge on fire/ems hierarchy in the state
you make absolutely no sense.
Scfa doesn’t and will never work
FFA has been deemed so far the only well maintained academy that actually works for fire and ems
refer to this post as to why SCFA wont work and didnt work
To the congressmen and women that voted against, or not at all in the establishment of FFA, I would like to know your exact reasoning behind it. ALL medical certifications are overseen by DOH, FFA just teaches them with permission from the Department of Health, as does every other certifying authority in the state (FHO, 9th, SCFD). Putting firefighting certifications under the supervision of the department of health is just fucking stupid, sorry. SCFA failed because you were required to be e…
That post you’re referring to is actually factual so I’m not sure on where you’re pulling your knowledge from but tow23er is right
Did you not read the comment under it in which I reference that he is exactly wrong with such evidence??? or are you just going with what he is saying without any prior knowledge? like expected…