So yeah… POST is coming up with a new standard for radio usage.
Departments heads are now riding members as they are trying to break a force of habit since V1 in just a few days.
Personally, an officer should state “T1”, “T2”, “DOC”, etc. as we should be aware if they aren’t on our channel. All the time when I dropped people off at DOC, I would go on their channel. If an officer needed to reach me, they could see I wasn’t in PRMY. Same with SCFD, FNG, DHS, SWAT, etc, we need to know their channel. All valuable info to know what channel they are on. POST is trying to combat radio clutter, however, I find this valuable information. This is just my opinion.
There are also issues with distress signals. I understand you don’t want 100 of them going off at once, but in the heat of the moment and a shooting situation. I don’t have time to stop and think if other LEOs are calling backup. I’m pressing my signal and giving 20s myself. I don’t want to die. I can understand to regulate this, but it’s hard to stop and think about something as minor as this in the middle of a shooting.
These are just my viewpoints on the situation coming from a LEO who has been around since V1. Vote on the poll and express your concerns and opinions below!
- Keep the New Rule to Stop “Clutter”
- Keep it the same as before
This is ASS.
I NEED TO KNOW WHAT CHANNEL PPL ARE IN
I will be demanding ASU still do this for aircraft safety and efficiency!
the new rule is way better and its easier to say nothing and just switch anyway so I don’t see a problem.
asu sure but not for regular leos
May it be noted that this isn’t a new radio rule… not sure where you got that from but as the 2ic of POST, I can assure all that this isn’t a new thing we’re rolling out.
Another thing: The founder, FedoraMasterB98, said that you do not need to state what channel you’re switching to all the time nor do you need to say J. Say it for certain scenarios, but do not say if it you’re checking what is going on in each channel, unless you’re actually going to be responding to it.
well the thing is, it would be smart but at the same time. some officers don’t even say “j” or joined when there is a pursuit. so you got no clue if they are helping or not
I def agree, we need to know what channel people are in.
I do also see how the spam can get rid of important shit.
something that shows what channel units are in…?
but until something like that is made, keep it the same as before!
new rule isnt doing shit
fed law > post announcement
Not complaining, but having gone through POST Class 51, during the vehicle pursuits, it was being done on the radio, and the instructors said nothing of it.
This could easily be remedied through development, either:
Make the radio include a scroll tab so radio participants can read older messages.
Make unnecessary habits like the ‘T2’ or ‘J’ denied transmission on the radio through script (i.e if you attempt to enter ‘T2’ onto the radio, it won’t transmit.)
Though, if I recall, the development team stated that they won’t be pursuing further updates on V2, now it’s just V3. Food for thought though.
in v3 add a part on the eru that states what channel someone is in
That is what I was going to say
It’s actually really useful to see how many officers are responding to a situation or pursuit. If I only see one LEO calling ‘T2’ on the radio I would assume that they’re the only one: I can infer that they would need at least one more unit on the pursuit and I would respond.
On the other hand, when a bunch of LEOs say T2 I would know that I am not needed and I can simply stay where I am.
Maybe this is a good rule for v3 in the future if the developers add different radio functions, but frankly the ‘cluttering up’ reason is worse than the issues which arise if all LEOs respond to a pursuit when not needed and when they don’t know exactly how many other LEOs are responding.
if im getting shot im gonna distress. i dont care how many people distress. speaking of which why dont we yell at fdot when they distress for being rammed by a car?
I don’t think we updated our curriculum at the time to match what Fed said
So just recently, POST made a new radio rule of not cluttering the radio. That is an issue, but what would make things worse is that we are not allowed to announce “T2” or notify the primary officer that we joined the pursuit. It would cause mayhem as we are not allowed to also ask for a 20 and the issue with that is, if new units join, they are going to head to the last known location which could’ve been a few minutes ago and the primary officer is probably at the other side of the map, so you would basically know nothing if the officer didn’t update the radio properly. Another thing, we are not to “spam” the distress signal. Of course, we aren’t telling each other who is going to press the distress signal and multiple notifications that the distress signal had been fired would concern the LEOs knowing that it could be very serious, and WE WERE TAUGHT TO USE THAT IN POST BACK WHEN WE WERE CADETS. A final thing, last night in the state patrol discord, we were having a discussion with a Head Instructor and he states that we should say “E/R FROM LOCATION” on the radio. Main issue is, it would waste time (http://prnt.sc/sgsc6j) (http://prnt.sc/sgscos) as a lot could happen if you type it out, such as a regular traffic stop can turn into a shooting right away. In conclusion, this new rule is outrageous and Fed doesn’t care what we do, but the stuff that now isn’t allowed on the radio is important and it helped a lot of LEOs.
It’s frustrating to me how POST announces new rules without feedback from the LEO community and then the LEA HICOMMs all start “enforcing” the new rules by threatening written warnings and saying “it’s not rocket science.” I’d like to see how perfect HICOMM is at adapting to new rules. Give your employees time to adapt… let them enjoy their job…
Just another reason why private business is so much more enjoyable. Sure, we have rules too, but at least we’re chill about it and don’t go off yelling at our employees. We value our staff as family. Looks like LEAs could learn a thing or two from underrated Commerce.