Kinda wrong there, a simple and easy amendment to the bill of rights would say otherwise.
Simply change that to something like this: Citizens can be frisked based on reasonable suspicion, and searched based on probable cause.
Kinda wrong there, a simple and easy amendment to the bill of rights would say otherwise.
Simply change that to something like this: Citizens can be frisked based on reasonable suspicion, and searched based on probable cause.
When the bill of rights says âreasonable groundsâ it does not specify if it means reasonable or probable, meaning that bills can decide what âreasonableâ would mean.
Additionally, theres no such thing as frisking really, you can only search someone in v2. And its illegal to search someone based on a reasonable suspicion according to a law, you need probable cause
But if frisking was added, which it should be, laws can be amended to make our ro-nation more real.
Plus I think Fed mentioned something on frisking/searching for V3, as their a strong difference in real life.
Sure, it could be added. But laws would have to be made in order to define if frisking is reasonable suspicion or probable cause.
But the main topic in this thread is about how officers make broad BOLOâs, not about searches
tbh even as SCFD iâve done more efficient BOLOs (theyâre specifically just descriptions for offenders that take off after screwing with our scenes) and thereâs always a 65% success rate if LEOs get to the scene fast enough
vehicle (if applicable)
suspect
username if applicable or able to gather it from that instance in case they try to FRP to evade (which happens most of the time because theyâve messed with us already)
last known direction of travel (âRW BVLD from CD to DOTâ, âroad from DOT to FDâ, etc)
charges/ offenses occurred for LEO interpretation once they encounter them
all presented in a nice little package for LEOs
i typically also include all this in 911s
what sucks is that the other 35% of the time, the LEO either canât find Waldo in the picture and just pull up to the scene not realizing theyâve already gone, or they get distracted even though theyâre right there and donât do anything about it
point at hand being here though, the BOLO > ProbC system does need clarification, and a lot of this could be avoided if people were specific
whoever said thatâs impossible your wrong, it worked in docklands at one point
If people need reminding that you need to actually describe the suspect in detail in a BOLO, I can see why the quality of policing in FSP and SCSO has been so low lately.
This is one of the most basic assumptions in policing. You want to find someone? Put in as much detail as you can.
The only time itâs justifiable si when something happens fast enough to a point where your brain didnât have enough time to process who you were looking at.
A undetailed BOLO is never probable cause, yet officers think it is.
If you have a undetailed BOLO, the most you can do is detain them.
This is not just for BOLOâs of a car, saying BOLO: Black Shirt is not a good enough BOLO.
Infact, I JUST saw this problem. The bolo was Orange DC, so they pulled one over, even after I said âAdvise he is wearing A blue shirt, green pants and yellow with roblox badge.â The man had done nothing wrong.
EDIT: He didnât even pay attention to car type, or it wasnât listed. He said âI just stopped him because its orange.â And attempted to Felony Stop it.
Well are you going to offer a solution? I agree that BOLOs donât always have the best descriptions but you canât just complain without offering a solution. And Realisticly, as a LEO, I can say that there isnât much we can do. In roblox, sight doesnât work like it does irl. We can only read license plates at certain angles, and we canât see detail from afar. Until you have a solution stop complaining kthx
Of course detain them, you canât just arrest someone without strong evidence or witnesses here.
When I meant that comment, I meant if someone desperately wants to get that suspect, despite the speed of them, those crappy descriptions will be your best piece of information. If it means having to stop certain people or cars, then thatâs how it has to be.
Obviously donât grab them out the car and stuff, just be friendly and ask the officer if what you have is match.
Heres the thing, its both illegal and its unconstitutional to search / arrest someone for a broad BOLO.
Solution or no solution, arresting someone for a BOLO such as âBlack CVâ is not going to work, and you can get your job removed, your POST Certification removed, and you can mess up someone elseâs career based on a broad BOLO such as âBlack CVâ. Regardless of if theres a âsolutionâ or not, you canât do broad BOLOâs.
If you end a pursuit, and all the description you have is a Black CV, I myself would just not do any BOLO, and say âPursuit terminated, No BOLO avaliableâ
Either read about the topic and comment about it, or donât comment about it at all.
This thread is about how officers make broad BOLOâs that can cause a false arrest to be made.
agree
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