[IDEA] Recall

Recently, theres been some events that caused distrust in politicians. I propose a recall system where ordinary people can remove politicians.

The way that this works is if a X amount of people support a recall campaign, there will be a referendum to let the people decide if politicians should stay in office.

Every level of government will be vulnerable to this system including Representatives, Senators, Justices, Governors, etc…

This should either be embedded into the constitution or simply as a separate legislation.

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Would be abused

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Seems like a fair and good idea but… eh

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So this allows for: judges who don’t rule in the favor of powerful figures to be removed, politicians who have to make a decision like impeaching an important figure for crimes that he and others close to him don’t like, etc. So basically, why even have a government? Let’s just establish an anarchy or a dictatorship and save ourselves a few months of effort.

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Firestone is a dictatorship

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Hahahahahahaha, no it isn’t. And a dictatorship by Fed and one by some random motherfucker shows an easy choice. Kolibob

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Let’s take a real world example:

Canada

One province(aka state) in Canada has implemented Recalls since 1995. Here’s an excerpt of the history of campaigns.

This caused distrust among constituents, however nothing was illegal. Up to the recall election, the political was reluctant to resign until he realized that the recall election was succeeding.

Recall elections are an important part of checks and balances and democracy.

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shut yo mouth

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But this isn’t real life. In real life, a Kolibob wouldn’t happen unless you really fucked up along the line. In real life states judges are elected, and that has been shown to cause a fuck ton of issues. You seem to misunderstand that this is a state lead by teenagers, not well-rounded 35 and up year olds. Rationality isn’t that common. Look at how people petition. Anytime a politician or figure does something they don’t even slightly like, petition for removal. And you want to give them even more ability to do stupid shit? This will never happen as long as i live.

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The government is designed to be a democratic institution. The people have opinions and if they decide to recall, so be it. One person’s opinion will most likely not recall a candidate due to the sheer amount of citizens required to pass it.

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Yeah it will. OVG had a petition that would have been legally valid against for removing him for removing Water during his corruption scandal, because Water had enough friends.

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So be it. That’s democracy.

If you don’t have bias, you don’t have democracy.

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Then fuck democracy, a strong republic is better. Hell, fuck the people. The beauty of this game is most people don’t really know enough shit to have a valid opinion, especially with matters involving the justice system or legal system, because they don’t need to. The government here is another part of the game, except a more specific group is interested in it. I can count on my hands and feet how many of our public servants in the departments have adequate knowledge of things like the BOR. This is one of the main reasons we (and real life governments for that matter) need judges to serve indefinitely, and only be removed for violating the law and constitution. Because most people don’t understand the complexities of the systems involved to make safe decisions.

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So what’s wrong with mindless teenagers voting with their peers?

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My main issue if you haven’t caught on is the judiciary in case you haven’t caught on. It is BEYOND dangerous to allow people uneducated in the complexities of the legal and justice systems to freely be able to dictate how those systems should run. Judges should never be elected, nor should they be subject to removal by the people except through impeachment for crimes and violations of the constitution.

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And the beauty of democracy is that both sides can educate the people. The recall election is meant for huge scandals, not for petty decisions. If people use it for petty decisions, the people have made their opinions clear.

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But people won’t use it for huge scandals lol. Anytime someone does even the slightest thing they don’t like, even if it wasn’t that big of a deal or was for the good of the state, recall.

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We live in a dictatorship…

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Fed’s really more of a monarch, only stepping in if he starts to feel stuff is going really in the wrong direction.

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Do you really think that 50+ people are going to #support a recall campaign and then a simple majority will vote in favour of the recall?